tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post7116933033393729825..comments2024-01-29T12:59:12.448-05:00Comments on The International Libertarian: Oh, Come, All Ye HatefulDarren Wolfehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13055259906316988117noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-63811279294841573692010-07-09T16:30:11.562-04:002010-07-09T16:30:11.562-04:00The speech given by James Bovard referred to above...The speech given by James Bovard referred to above can be viewed online now. The woman makes her comments at 24:20:<br />http://www.fff.org/comment/com1007c.aspDarren Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13055259906316988117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-57784899215837071082010-06-19T00:09:39.794-04:002010-06-19T00:09:39.794-04:00Thanks to Dan Sullivan for writing this. Let's...Thanks to Dan Sullivan for writing this. Let's hope we never have to hear him sing it! LOL<br /><br />I was expecting a song parody. Rather than be disappointed, I wrote one. I added some footnotes for those of you who are not familiar with Christian Scripture. I figured it was better to point to direct violations of Christian Scripture by the Christian Right than to merely ridicule them. Darren Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13055259906316988117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-18082498861999956392010-06-17T17:38:25.749-04:002010-06-17T17:38:25.749-04:00OK, Anonymous,
Shalada is a salad, so what?
You&...OK, Anonymous,<br /><br />Shalada is a salad, so what?<br /><br />You're still not addressing what my article is about. <br /><br />Your questions are based on collectivism, which I reject. Neither Jews nor Palestinians, as groups, have a claim to anything. As individuals everyone has a right to go anywhere in the world as long as they respect the property of others.Darren Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13055259906316988117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-904026226330774832010-06-16T04:11:15.308-04:002010-06-16T04:11:15.308-04:00"I think you're wondering away from the t..."I think you're wondering away from the topic because you have no arguments against my premise. "<br /><br />You're dreaming.<br /><br />Don't confuse me with the other anonymous posted here, I don't evade. You said he was b/c he wouldn't answer a question you asked, yet you have as of yet to respond to mine.<br /><br />Why was the temple mount called the temple Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-48067456278881917772010-06-15T21:25:43.644-04:002010-06-15T21:25:43.644-04:00Anonymous,
Sure peace is achievable if the slaves...Anonymous,<br /><br />Sure peace is achievable if the slaves are willing to submit. But what kind of peace is that?<br /><br />You say that Israel will accept anyone that will live in peace. Why, then do they grant automatic citizenship to Jews & not anyone else?<br /><br />Anyway, Egypt has nothing to do with this. We're wondering away from the subject of the article, which was Darren Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13055259906316988117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-12466423534173867682010-06-15T14:14:32.428-04:002010-06-15T14:14:32.428-04:00"One of you talked about refugees. The fact t..."One of you talked about refugees. The fact that Israel readily accepts Jews & not anyone else is discriminatory. "<br /><br />I'm sorry, but this is a lie. <br /><br />They accept people who are willing to live in PEACE with them, by definition Hamas' main goal is to destroy them. (It's in their charter)<br /><br />Secondly, and more importantly, why the hypocrisy with Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-62043376354944678272010-06-15T06:24:15.325-04:002010-06-15T06:24:15.325-04:00Anonymous,
Now you're evading my points.
I c...Anonymous,<br /><br />Now you're evading my points.<br /><br />I condemn all the violence from all sides. As my article states "It would behoove the Palestinians to engage in civil disobedience." In retrospect Perhaps I could have made the point more emphatically. Let me make it here, evil actions on one side don't justify evil, violent actions by the other. There should also beDarren Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13055259906316988117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-24877771993447097662010-06-13T14:31:53.686-04:002010-06-13T14:31:53.686-04:00You haven't addressed the root narrative.
It...You haven't addressed the root narrative. <br /><br />It's instructive to look at the American Southwest here again. Hispanics AREN'T raised to hate Americans, although there's a a a certain amount of that on the fringes. But there's nothing approaching the Arab attitude that it's actually noble to kill your "opponent". <br /><br />But what if there was? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-40612688783963110802010-06-13T08:12:33.989-04:002010-06-13T08:12:33.989-04:00To the 2 Anonymous commenters, thank you for your ...To the 2 Anonymous commenters, thank you for your politeness & your comments.<br /><br />I have to say that I'm surprised at some of what you 2 have written. It would seem to make my case.<br /><br />One of you talked about refugees. The fact that Israel readily accepts Jews & not anyone else is discriminatory. For example, lets make the US a white country. Whites get all the Darren Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13055259906316988117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-18468713800309461752010-06-13T03:57:41.960-04:002010-06-13T03:57:41.960-04:00Gotta agree with the above. There seems to be a v...Gotta agree with the above. There seems to be a very strange immunity to the root narrative that drives the whole situation over there. Palestinians hate Jews, and they're brainwashed from an early age to do so. Investigate Palestinian children's television programming. Kids are taught from an early age that Jews are scum, and that the Holocaust never occurred, or it was the Jews'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-53574459414298620882010-06-12T02:03:30.773-04:002010-06-12T02:03:30.773-04:00Since you appear to want a civil dialogue, i will ...Since you appear to want a civil dialogue, i will engage then.<br />In your own words you say, "I don't know. It would behoove the Palestinians to engage in civil disobedience. They'd get a lot more support that way (witness the Freedom Flotilla)."<br /><br />The Palis are not interested in peace, as i already stated they elected a terroristic form of govt.(This is a fact that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-89237798506827732012010-06-11T08:45:35.670-04:002010-06-11T08:45:35.670-04:00OK, Anonymous, what facts did I get wrong here?
...OK, Anonymous, what facts did I get wrong here? <br /><br />You seem to have missed that I wrote, "It would behoove the Palestinians to engage in civil disobedience." I'm calling for an end to the violence.<br /><br />I'm not a Christian, but one did put it perfectly at a forum where I posted a link to this article:<br /><br />I read this thread, and all its posts, and after a Darren Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13055259906316988117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-74441773931738274762010-06-11T08:36:15.315-04:002010-06-11T08:36:15.315-04:00Some positive feedback:
Hi Darren,
Thank you for...Some positive feedback:<br /><br />Hi Darren,<br /><br />Thank you for posting this article "O Come all Ye Hateful". For the past 2 days, I have wondered in my heart on this very same subject. When I came across your post, I was immediately comforted to know that I was not alone with only a few here in this forum. (I was even thinking, if someone else does not speak out, I may leave Darren Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13055259906316988117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-35022169298526209562010-06-11T02:57:29.230-04:002010-06-11T02:57:29.230-04:00"I'm a little disappointed that no one fr..."I'm a little disappointed that no one from the pro-war side choose to debate this here. In their hearts they know they're wrong. "<br /><br />haha, what a load.<br /><br />let me get the disclaimer out of the way first; bush and cheney should be brought up on charges of treason for the patriot act alone, period.<br /><br />The facts are: There's never been a palestine. (It Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-43930012949792765422010-06-10T22:07:27.786-04:002010-06-10T22:07:27.786-04:00Thank you all for the comments.
I'm a little...Thank you all for the comments. <br /><br />I'm a little disappointed that no one from the pro-war side choose to debate this here. In their hearts they know they're wrong. <br /><br />I did loose a Facebook friend over this, the one whose page the quoted comments are on. Oh well, people that make noise on the internet shouldn't be so sensitive.Darren Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13055259906316988117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-22903632032802921392010-06-10T12:47:53.122-04:002010-06-10T12:47:53.122-04:00I agree that there is outspoken hatred by some Chr...I agree that there is outspoken hatred by some Christians and it is deplorable. I also agree that within each religious or even racial group, there exists hatred and fear for opposing groups. It is a shame, but it does not represent the whole group. Yes, we should call out the problems of hating a group when it's individuals with bad behavior who are really the problem, not the group itself.Chris Babbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-28188612148795366832010-06-10T12:35:50.827-04:002010-06-10T12:35:50.827-04:00This new century has not been a boon thus far for ...This new century has not been a boon thus far for faith in human nature.<br /><br />Thanks for the reference to my spiel in Pennsylvania. There were lots of savvy, principled pro-freedom folks in the audience - it was a treat to exchange ideas with people who are putting their shoulders behind the fight for their own freedom. <br /><br />My impression of the lady who vigorously disagreed during QJim Bovardhttp://www.jimbovard.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-73920961132741601262010-06-10T11:01:33.235-04:002010-06-10T11:01:33.235-04:00I wish I could disagree with you.
Shortly after I...I wish I could disagree with you.<br /><br />Shortly after Israel's golden age of statelessness under the judges (I realize I'm assuming what needs to be proven, the justice of the conquest under Joshua), their society unraveled because of their rebellion against the Torah (yes, another assumption). They decided that they needed a state to put things back together and keep from being Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10972137407110619204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-75094403309164081362010-06-10T09:52:54.073-04:002010-06-10T09:52:54.073-04:00It's so sad to have studied historical inciden...It's so sad to have studied historical incidents where people committed atrocities against other people over such silly things as the color of skin, where one was born, one's religious beliefs or a scrap of colored cloth ... only to see it repeated in front of one's eyes in real life in this supposed modern, enlightened 21st century. I thought we humans were done with this nonsense (George Donnellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16984579502979682678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8312968014855999778.post-26350820009755627992010-06-09T19:36:35.582-04:002010-06-09T19:36:35.582-04:00Excellent article! I agree it is important to exp...Excellent article! I agree it is important to expose such self-righteous hypocrisy. Some of the worst atrocities in history has occurred by those proclaiming to be "Christians," and the evil of such can be extreme due to the fact they wrap themselves in their flag and their "God." What a dangerous common combination - nationalism and religion.<br /><br />Some of most Christine Smithhttp://www.christinesmith.usnoreply@blogger.com